Npcs Vs Ballistae
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See also Evony Quick-Start Guide, NPCs vs Warriors, Attacking Valleys
In Evony, the most efficient way to farm level 1-5 NPC cities with zero losses is with armies consisting of ballistae and transporters.
Since June 9 2009, you need horseback riding L8 and archery L9 to hit the level 5 NPCs with zero losses.
Note: Most of these battle report links no longer work! We are keeping the links in the hope that Evony will fix the problem and make them work again.
Warning: As of August 16, 2009 it appears that updates have been made that may require you to increase the number of Ballistae needed to farm NPCs with no losses. Please let us know if you experience this as well.
When contributing, please include:
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- Hero attack level
- Archery level
- Horseback Riding Level
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Transporters Required
It is important to remember that this is only the number of vacant transports you will need. Both the transports and the troops require food. This will be the tricky part.
Each ballista can hold 35 load as well and that increases by 3.5 for each level of logistics as well.
Each Transporter consumes 10 food and each ballista consumes 50. There is some structure or academy level that reduces this as well but I am not sure what it is. Currently my transports are only consuming 1 and my ballista's are only consuming 11 with a load of 46. So I can attack anything within 4 miles and it will not require any more transports than the above as long as my ballista's are equal to or greater that the number of transports.
NPC Level 1
75 Transporters(Anything below level 6 archery needs to send 50 ballistae)
Archery L7
- +++ Corpy +++ Date: 14th Nov 09
- Lots of testing, with arch l7, 20 ballistae are the minimum for zero losses
- battle89.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091114/3e/fc/3efc2e2ed3f019ee6ba31b69f90e96b7.xml
Archery L8
20 ballistae
Archery L9
20 ballistae
Archery L10
- 20 ballistae
- One player reported success with:
- 80 hero attack
- 18 ballistae
- Using lower-level attack heroes (like 27) may have ballistae losses.
- Using fewer ballistae (like 9) can result in a loss
- We can Hit NPC level1 with 32 Ballistas & 50 transporters with 0 losses
- Hero attack: level 59
- Archery: Level 9
- Horseback Riding: Level 8
- http://battlew15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090807/54/8c/548cee6b2cfd1601883f038eedda6623.xml
NPC Level 2
80 Transporters
Archery L6
- 200 Ballista
- Military Tradition: 6
- Iron Working: 5
- Horseback Riding: 4
- Logistics: 4
Archery L7
- 42 Ballistae
- 114 Ballistae (54 Transporters)
- +++ Corpy +++ Date: 14th Nov 09
- Lots of testing, with arch l7, 120 ballistae are the minimum I have yet tried with zero losses
- battle89.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091114/b0/7f/b07fa6040a586d6877a13bfd0574d5d4.xml
- 12/21/09 I was able to take a lvl2 NPC with 35 ballistae and 50 transporters - 0 losses
- Hero: Att 73
- Arch: Lvl 7
- Mil Trad: Lvl 6
- Ir Work: Lvl 5
- HBR: Lvl 5
- Log: Lvl 5
- http://battle107.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091220/57/70/5770afc0a16a393fe52181cddd064767.xml
Archery L8
- I didn't bring any ballistae and this was for testing purposes.
- Hero 72
- HBR6
- Iron W7
- Military S8
- Aug 06, 2009 24 Ballistae
- 150 Ballista
- Hero Attack: 75
- Horseback Riding: L6
- http://battle23.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090807/f4/ec/f4ecd6c3392c45f00d51d34321f21681.xml
Archery L9
- 20 ballistas:
- hero attack 69
- horseback riding: 9
- military tradition: 8
- http://battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/9a/2e/aa/db/9a2eaadb347c7adb939312ef5f9990be.xml
Archery L10
?
NPC Level 3
Archery L6
- 27.07.09 101 ballistas
Archery L7
- 26.07.09 101 ballistas
- 2009-08-03 180 Ballista
- Horseback Riding 5
- Hero attack 86
- http://battle27.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090803/6d/b8/6db89f9c49e7aaa89c2ba4c60aea1422.xml
- 193 ballistae
- horseback riding L5 or 6
- Took 67 rounds
- http://battle22.evony.com/default.html?logfile/32/e0/04/13/32e00413fedd5561e38a3a240a80e8ef.xml
- Below is a successful no-loss attack with only 181 ballista. This should help you in your search for a "sweet-spot". So it must be somewhere between 171 and 181...
- 200 ballistae
- horseback riding L8
- Confirmed Jun 28, 2009
- Since the recent patch limits the rounds of a fight to 100, the number of ballistae needed for a lvl 3 is between 171-200.
- There are no casualties on your side if you attack with 170, but you return with a defeat and no loot because the fight aborted at round 100. The sweet spot is somewhere between 171-200. If anyone knows a more accurate number, please let us know!
Note: The NPC archer's towers can hit ballistae, so there may be casualties if your archery level is less than 7.
- Jul 21, 2009 200 ballistae
- horseback riding L5
- hero attack 73
- military tradition L7
- iron work L4
- -Won Battle-
- http://battlew15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/c3/56/fb/0e/c356fb0ef3fff3e2f5c42497efe4d02c.xml
- +++ Corpy +++ Date: 14th Nov 09
- Lots of testing, with arch l7, 200 ballistae are the minimum for zero losses
- battle89.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091114/ec/85/ec850a21568f6ea0b968686aeb058082.xml
Archery L8
- 120 ballistae
- hero attack 122
- 150 ballistae
- horseback riding L5
- hero attack 30
- Proof Jul 09 2009
Archery L9
- July 24th,2009 110 Ballistas
- Hero attack 78
- Horseback riding lvl 9
- military tradition lvl 8
- http://battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/6e/f8/3c/09/6ef83c090ce32fe81c3804af67f8f7c8.xml
Archery L10
?
NPC Level 4
460 Transporters
Archery L7
- 09/16/2009 234 Ballistae
- lost 18 Ballistae!
- Hero Attack 80
- Horseback Riding Level 5
- battle50.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090916/22/eb/22eb2ad2690585d2a174beff5525b069.xml
- July 4 2009 295 Ballistae
- Hero Attack 100
- HorseBack Riding lvl 6
- http://battle18.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b8/af/ea/00/b8afea008c6e8d6d068c09cd6f7366d5.xml
- Aug 5 2009 350 ballistae
- Hero Attack 131
- Metal Casting Lv 7
- Horseback Riding Lv 6
- Logistics Lv 5
- Jun 24 2009
- 05/08/2009 500 Ballistae
- Hero Attack
- Horseback Riding Level 5
- battle18.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090805/33/de/33de89177a2bf0c22f4b73d9bc8f9c1e.xml
Archery L8
- 150 ballistae
- Hero attack-83
- Military tradition-6
- Iron working-8
- Horseback riding-6
- Medicine-6
- http://battle86.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091108/a4/92/a4920e35fd544010a3ccb1c3d178caaa.xml
- Jul 27 2009 210 ballistae
- hero attack 70
- horseback riding 5
- http://battlew13.evony.com/default.html?logfile/3b/34/54/f8/3b3454f8a97c68d1765017857b3fcaaf.xml
- 2009-08-02
- 270 ballistae
- BR 3
- Hero Attack 79
- 2010-01-11 300 ballistae, 279 transporters
- 0 losses
- military tradition: lvl5
- iron working: lvl8
- logistics: lvl9
- compass: lvl10
- horse back riding: lvl3
- archery: lvl8
- http://battle90.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20100111/e3/27/e3270de44f3912f7a8821b59cbc95fda.xml
- 300 ballistas
Archery L9
- 150 ballistas
- hero attack 84
- horseback riding 9
- military tradition 8
- http://battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/71/3a/e2/b7/713ae2b741d3a1ca2130c31b23621105.xml
- 145 Ballistae
- Hero attack: 106
- HBR: 8
- MT: 8
- IW: 8
- Med: 7
- http://battle24.evony.com/default.html?logfile/da/f4/80/72/daf48072a2457ec7b8bb622d8b64cf32.xml
- 102 Ballistae
- Hero attack: 107
- HBR: 8
- MT: 8
- IW: 9
- Med: 7
- http://battle24.evony.com/default.html?logfile/07/2a/41/94/072a4194220b10a14710d0caeb994f8b.xml
Archery L10
- 200 ballistas
- hero attack 81
- horseback riding 9
- military tradition 10
- I took a safe route, just to be sure I didn't lose any of my ballistae.
- http://battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091030/fe/d9/fed9f3c4cd88ada4827cb3decbb10202.xml
NPC Level 5
Use 760 transporters
Horseback riding 8 is recommended at this point to have 0 losses
Archery L7
- 600 Ballistae
- Military Tradition: 6
- Iron Working: 7
- Archery: 8
- Horseback Riding: 5
- Medicine: 5
- Hero's attack: 70+
- http://battle24.evony.com/default.html?logfile/51/19/e3/8e/5119e38ece551a8320df7ac0cc82b7d4.xml
Archery L8
- 2009-08-02 753 Ballistae
- Archery Lv 8
- Horseback Lv 9
- Hero attack 92
- I attacked a lv 5 NPC city and LOST
- http://battle26.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090801/5a/7f/5a7fd15f5c07761f12d0496419fe8b68.xml
- 2009-08-03
- LOST!
- Hero Attack 80
- HorseBack Riding 9
- everything else lvl 7 or higher
- This is the 3d attack similar to this, all with 570+ . . . . I guess I just don't learn.
- http://battle22.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090802/f6/6c/f66ce86e6e39b859e8bfd6259a1a0010.xml
- July 16, 2009 563 Ballistae
- I lost
- Hero attack 93
- Horseback riding 8
- Life 6 (all other training at 7 or higher)
- Not sure why this didn't work for me; would appreciate any insights.... (Bootscum, server 22)
- It has been rumored that Horseback Riding level 7 and 8 have an issue that cause losses. It is suggested to have level 9 HBR.
- http://battle22.evony.com/default.html?logfile/94/91/57/c8/949157c8d8abc7b34ee167a50030c77f.xml
- July 20 400 Ballistae
- Hero attack 98 (level 32)
- Archery 9
- Horseback riding 9
- All other relevant training at 7 or higher
- this time I won, but with Archery L9
- http://battle22.evony.com/default.html?logfile/12/ec/53/5c/12ec535c0f96653096e69cf8e059c0b8.xml
- Jul 14, 2009 350 ballistae
- Horseback riding 5
- Medical 6
- Military tradition 8
- Iron working 6
- Hero attack 95 (anything less than 95 and I started getting losses)
- Jul 8, 2009
- Took 717 ballistae on a trial run on a Level 5 NPC. I had to suffer 48 casualties but won. As it was a trial run i did not take any transporters.
- http://battle11.evony.com/default.html?logfile/4f/c8/1a/2e/4fc81a2e2fcb69af5a1c5990ff09b424.xml
- Jul 1, 2009 700 ballistae
- Horseback riding 5
- Hero attack 100
- Between 3001-5000 ballistae
- Jun 28, 2009 with 3000 ballistae
- Jun 28, 2009 with 5000 ballistae
- Jul 26, 2009 500 ballistas
- Hoseback Riding lvl 6
- Hero attack 86
- http://battlew15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/91/a0/ae/a2/91a0aea2058e6712ee6e3d729c499764.xml
- Aug 07, 2009 616 ballistas
- Hoseback Riding lvl 6
- Hero attack 131
- http://battle23.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090807/09/5e/095e1a8caf59f1fea45913378bd968b4.xml
Archery L9
- 350 ballistae
- No losses
- hero atk 93
- HBR lvl 8
- battle64.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091114/e6/50/e650dbab3316c99bb1943557b2240691.xml
- Sent 400 ballistae
- zero losses
- HBR 8
- Military Tradition 7
- Iron Working 7
- Medicine 6
- hero attack 93
- battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091107/61/35/61354f8f2c5b4ac0a454e2f52a591433.xml
- Sent 400 ballistas
Both of these done by myself, Nannis, so all other tech the same(this was done to test hero attack factor):
- 380 ballistae
- 380 ballistae
- lost 24 ballistae
- hero attack 17
- http://battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/89/47/36/64/894736641bb5498cfeae0f2db534869a.xml
- July 12 2009
- This was a test fight, so no transporters were used
- Hero's Attack: 110
- Archery:lvl 9
- HBR:lvl 6
- IW: lvl 7
- MT: lvl 9
- MC: lvl 6
- Medicine: lvl 7
- http://battle18.evony.com/default.html?logfile/16/66/37/7a/1666377a331206508a57e3966e2b4643.xml
Archery L10
- 250 ballistae
- Archery 10
- HBR 9
- Medicine 9
- Compass 9
- Iron Working 10
- Military Tradition 10
- I sent 250 ballistae to a lvl 5 NPC with 0 losses and hero attack 130
- I lost 5 ballistae with a 113 attach hero
- I had someone else try it with lvl 10 techs, and he lost about 20 ballistae
- 130 attack hero: battle83.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091203/1a/51/1a51a4cbfedf2bbde3f8737d5aaa1dc4.xml
- 113 attack hero: battle83.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091203/73/fb/73fb524beef304421883b757bc82a95c.xml
- Jun 21, 2009 Proof 400 ballistae
- horseback riding L9 (only increases mechanics & cavalry movement speed)
- http://battle3.evony.com/default.html?logfile/51/94/a6/19/5194a619d3db5f3ea2934f3398a60868.xml
- August 11, 2009 390 Ballistae
- no losses
- Horseback riding L9
- Hero with 122 attack
- December 28th, 2009
- Ballista's: 700
- Transports: 600
- Hero Attack Rating: 104
- Archery: 10
- Military Tradition: 10
- Horseback Riding (HBR): 6
- Medicine: 9
- Note: With the above stats and Archery at level 9, i was still taking losses but was winning.
NPC Level 6
At level 6 Defensive Trebuchet come into play. It is unlikely that you will succeed without ballistae causalities.
Because of the wall bonus, NPC cities L6 and above will increase ballista casualties. Bring catapults! With catapults you can win with no losses.
Archery L9
- Jun 30, 2009 4982 ballistae
- 303 losses
- hero attack 104
- battle10.evony.com/default.html?logfile/f4/d3/d2/48/f4d3d248c2709dd236e7122414c89a6f.xml
Archery L10
Without Catapults, losses are always going to happen. Depending on the level of HERO in the NPC depends on the amount of loss you have.
With Horse riding at lvl 9 minimum, you can send 1600 ballistae, and will loose 360 of those. 25 will be able to be treated in the Rally Spot. Sending more ballista helps but still will not stop the losses. Sending 1900 ballistae reaps only 250 losses, again 25 of these are repairable in the rally spot.
- Jul 25, 2009: 1100 catapults
- 143 lost
- hero attack 106
- All research at lvl10
- Battle went 47 rounds
- battlew4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/33/a9/82/88/33a98288493c3c864283e02c7866ee7f.xml
NPC Level 7
- 2009-Oct-14
- Totally lost 3010 ballistae with 1L0 archery and L9 horseriding, Hero 113 attack.
- 2009-Sep
- Lvl 10 arch and minimum
- lvl 9 Horseriding is advised on this NPC level
- 2500 ballisae reaps losses of 800 and goes 60 rounds
- Havent tried less than this yet, as the losses are too great.
- I am starting to use catapults on both lvl 6 and lvl 7 now
NPC Level 8
- 2009-Oct-20
- Lost 5000 Ballistae and 2500 transport with Archery 10 and HBR 9 and Hero with attack 117
- Lvl 10 arch and minimum lvl 9 Horseriding is advised on this NPC level.
A minimum of 3500 ballistae. ???(losses)???
NPC Level 9
?
NPC Level 10
- 2009-Dec-02 4k warriors, 94k archers 2k Transports
- Lost all Warriors -quickly replaced - and 7-8k archers.
- All levels at 10 - HBR, Archery, Logistics
- Don’t send Ballistae against level 10 - it’s a sin to waste them.
- 2 results: 2 different heroes
- Result1: battle44.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091130/d7/b4/d7b49b2fce9a8d1928b96b4faec6dac4.xml
- Result2: battle44.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091130/da/e6/dae62c886c63666c994e945d41f3259d.xml
- 2009 Nov 20
- Sent 20000 Balls, 1000Pikes, 1000Swords, 10000Arch, 2400trans
- I lost all pikes, swords, archers and 15754 Balls (OWCH)
- I did walk away with 22.5mil resources though
Evony has been tweaking the game with each patch, so this information may not be accurate.
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